[In Madeenah the biggest halaqah I saw was that of Ash-Shaykh Ibraheem Ar-Ruhaylee, sitting about 50 meters away from Shaykh ‘Abdul Muhsin Bin Hamad Al-Abbaad. Coming back to the uk, I see the Madkhalis latest target is…… Shaykh Ibraheem Ar-Ruhaylee. Lol, these guys r pure khawarij in their mentality. Below is the rsponse from th honourable shaykh, hafidhahUllaah.]
Shaykh Ibraheem said in response to Shaykh Ubayd al Jabiree’s accusation that Shaykh Ibraheem Ruhaylee said:
“It is permissible to take Knowledge from the one who does not make tabdee of Jahm bin Safwan.”
Shaykh Ibraheem’s response to Shaykh Ubayd:
This Statement (that is attributed to me) is falsehood.
Rather it is a fabrication and an oppression (against me), because I did not direct anybody to take knowledge from the one who does not make Tabdee of Jahm bin Safwan.
This sentence only came in an expression in a debate with a Student of knowledge when he asked me concerning a student of knowledge who is studying under a man of Ahlul Sunnah.
The Questioner informed me that he (had been advised) to discontinue benefiting from him because he did not make tabdee of a man in our contemporary times who the scholars of Ahlu sunnah had differed regarding declaring him to be an innovator.
Rather the majority of ahlu sunnah do not make tabdee of his mistake and do not expel him from the sunnah because of his slip.
So when I directed him (the questioner) that it is permissible to benefit from this man and this was specifically after it was mentioned to me the scarcity of teachers from ahlu sunnah in his country.
He was not satisfied with this response so this sentence came in my speech in the form of a debate and the things that are obligatory, regarding the first issue. Which was taking knowledge from a person of the sunnah who does not make tabdee of the person previously mentioned.
It was not an allowance to seek knowledge from the one who does not make tabdee of Jahm bin Safwan.
…I indeed mentioned this doubt in the book لمساءل تاصيل from a number of angles. I will mention two from them:
The first one: This expression (about Jahm bin safwaan) came when I was given a scenario I done this in order to satisfy the questioner who inquired with regards to seeking knowledge from the one who he was asking about
This method is well known in debates, so I gave him a situation where you have the worst case scenario with regards to the rights of a man who has knowledge but he does not make tabdi of Jahm so one should seek knowledge from him and leave his mistakes because the the benefits of attaining knowledge from him takes precedence and the benefits attained outweighs the corruption of him not making tabdi of Jahm.
Shaykh Islam Ibn Taymiyah said “If it becomes difficult to establish the obligatory matters from knowledge and Jihad and other than that except with someone who has a Bidah with him so that leaving that compulsory matter will be more harmful than the harm (of sitting with the person of bidah). Then attainment of this benefit takes precedence over the harm if the opposite was done. [Ref: Majmoor fataawa vol 28 page 212]
The situation that the questioner was asking about was less than this. The mistake of that teacher in that he does not make tabdi of a person of whom there is a difference of opinion about and he has the ability to recognize the mistake is less than the mistake of the one who does not make tabdi of Jahm of whom there is consensus regarding his misguidance and the ruling of him being an innovator.
Secondly: What demonstrates the correctness of this scenario is the fatawa of the Ulama in which they ruled that it is permissible to seek knowledge from some of Ahlul Bidah in times of necessity and the jahmiyyah comes under the generality of ahlul bidah and also less than them the Mutazilah and also less than them the Ashaairah.
So if we had to choose between seeking knowledge from the Ashaairah who negate the attributes(of Allah)except seven and those that they do affirm is not upon the methodology of Ahlul sunnah and they also give precedence to the intellect over the divinely revealed text and they are Jabriyyah with regards to the belief in Qadr and they are Murji when it comes to Iman, and between seeking knowledge from a man who has a sound aqeedah but he does not declare Jahm to be an innovator, so seeking knowledge from the second man will take precedence over taking knowledge from the Ashaairah despite the fact that taking knowledge from the Ashaairah is permissible according to the people of Knowledge in times of necessity. [Ref: Taseel Almusaail page 60-61]
Translated by Jafar ibn Ruel Jeffrey Source Arabic Source